LOOSE ENDS - Il Forum Italiano dedicato a Bruce Springsteen

Può anche darsi, mai escludere a priori qualche indizio...

Infatti, vorrei solo riprendere il mio spunto iniziale perchè il PIT è stato uno spunto ma si deve forse allargare la visuale al "come si vive" il concerto" (e anche la prevendita? )
Copio quindi anche qui lo stesso post odierno, messo anche su LOHAD visto che il tema è stato trattato su tre diversi forum (i migliori... )

Quindi non solo legato al PIT in sè quanto (come altri amici, mi sembra)...."ragazzi, torniamo con i piedi per terra e e cerchiamo di essere un po' più civili, visto che pensavamo di essere i "bruce fans" senza peccato ma era una finta"

Ammesso che fosse esistita, ora è ufficiale, è finita la stagione del "volemose bene, siamo tutti una famiglia, Bruce ci unisce tutti" (e purtroppo devo dire che anni fa ci credevo anche io). Voglio dire, ci sono legami veri e sinceri tra alcuni fans, ma come succede in qualsiasi altro "gruppo", incluso l'Associazione Italiana Collezionisti di Lattine

Ricopio solo così per la cronaca due flash da BTX che erano stati diffusi dal management per la questione lotteria, tanto per richiamare quali erano gli obbiettivi (in Europa se ne sono fregati oppure hanno fatto i conti a priori con la testa della gente, che effettivamente è un po' diversa qui da noi, lo vedi dal panettiere e in posta che si scannano per "IO, IO PRIMO")

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1) On the Rising tour, Springsteen concerts began regularly featuring a general admission floor (meaning the floor was standing-only, and unreserved), usually partitioned into a smaller G.A. section by the stage ("the pit") with a larger G.A. section behind it. Look for the same basic setup on this tour; seating charts from the individual venues typically show G.A. floors, with reserved seating in the rest of the arena.
Over the course of the Rising tour, the "rules" for the G.A. line (and specifically for entry into the pit) lacked consistency and organization, causing plenty of frustration. This time out, a tour source tells us that they are working to standardize the system as much as possible.

By the time the Rising tour reached the 2003 stadium leg, when the G.A. section was the pit, a pit lottery system was in place to randomize entry, offering G.A. ticketholders a fair shot at the front without the need to stand in line all day; it worked.

While there's no guarantee that the Magic system will be indentical, we're told:
"Yes, in most cases the wristband lottery mode later in the day worked best, as it gave more people an equal chance. The other thing we're asking the venues is if we can give information out earlier where people can congregrate, as we know also a part of coming early is meeting other common friends you'd only see at these shows. We're hoping to arrange this so it at least seems a little more organized (and more importantly, safer) for the fans who come early to just hang with each other. But ultimately, the goal is not to have a situation where people think they're ahead of the game by coming way early or camping out."

If and when there's an official G.A. entry policy announced, we'll spread the news right away. In the meantime, hopefully this will help you figure out what to go for as you gear up for the ticket rush.



2) JUST AN OLD SWEET SONG KEEPS G.A. ON MY MIND
We promised we'd provide you with more information on the General Admission system for the upcoming tour when we received it. Well, page 20 of our morning paper was circled in red, meaning we were about to get more information from our source. As last time, this is not an "official" announcement, but it pretty well sets forth what we can expect out on the road.

Taking both their own experience and the perspective of fans into account, the powers-that-be have reached a consensus that "handling the G.A. with a numbered wristband control of some sort" -- that is, a lottery system to determine entry order -- "is the fairest."

In this plan, numbered wristbands will be given out starting at a pre-announced time at a designated spot at each venue, and will be distributed until about 5:00 pm. A lottery will then determine who is the first into the pit. The line will be let in, in order from the number selected, until pit capacity is reached.

Starting times, cut-off times, pit capacity, and the location where wristbanding will occur will be determined by the venue in conjunction with tour management. Our source promises they will be making a concerted effort to get this information out as far in advance of each show as possible,"so people can feel they know what's going on."

"I think this will be our plan for the majority of our venues, and our goal is that, whatever the plan, we will have the information out ahead of time for the fans." Of course, we'll post the info here when we get it.

Tour management realizes "this still leaves a dilemma for fans who have to work and can’t get there before 5:00, but we have to have some standard, and while not perfect for all, this seems the fairest."

Our source was adamant about one other point -- they have no intention of dealing with any fan-based lists, anywhere, of any kind. Period.

Finally, we were reminded of an issue the venues face: what to do with fans who want to hang out all day, G.A. policy aside. "Fans come early not only for the chance to get their G.A. positions," the source acknowledges, "but just as as importantly, for many, to spend some time with other friends." Staffing and insurance liabilities can prevent venues from be able to safely provide hang-out space too early in the day. So, tour management has a request for all of us: after you get your wristband, "if there is a place near the venue where people could safely get together, we would appreciate it."

We know this doesn’t answer every question – such as, "what happens if I'm number 32 and my partner is number 33 and she is first in line...." But we know more today than we knew yesterday. And if we learn more tomorrow (or the day after, or the day after that), we'll be sure to let you know.
-September 13, 2007

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Con questo non voglio gettare fango su nessuno, tanto meno su chi ha provato (non riuscendoci) a gestire la cosa per 24 ore. Il dubbio è che ci sia comunque un po' di "non trasparenza". Se poi qualcuno volesse giustamente dire "ma tu chi cavolo sei" accetto, sono anche io un fan, dico che come tanti di voi ho visto tanti concerti "non Bruce" i tanti posti, e mi tocca fare i conti con un po' di esperienza come tutti noi pelati con i capelli bianchi (se li avessimo ancora, ovvio ).
La voglio solo mettere sul tavolo, mica usarla per catechizzare

Speriamo di tornare appunto ad arrivare alle 15-16.00 (o quando cavolo volete, ma senza esagerare), salutare un po' di amici, mettersi in qualche fila "a prova di furbo" e aspettare di entrare, braccia basse per evitare falli da rigore....

per questo ho fatto un paragone con chi arriva da lontano e si organizza per eventi come Primo Maggio, Telecom ai Fori, o Cornetto Algida in Duomo a Milano...magari anche lì si cerca di stare davanti, ma non mi sembra con grandi psicodrammi (va beh, Pezzali, Baglioni, Tiromancino forse il paragone .. però anche Genesis e Simon & Garfunkel, con i loro ultras )

meno male che ultimamente Bruce ci viene più spesso a trovare... pensa se fossimo in Australia o Argentina
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